Control is comforting—but often an illusion. In this intimate conversation, Shane Hewitt and Gary Direnfeld unpack how people cope with life’s hardest transitions, from losing loved ones to redefining identity in retirement. Gary shares his own story of loss and medically assisted death, while challenging the way society speaks about mental health. Together, they reveal how acknowledging pain, moderating coping habits, and practicing grace can help navigate both grief and growth with honesty and compassion.

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Gary Direnfeld
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Originally aired on 2025-10-06